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Do You DREAM?

Do you dream or do you DREAM?



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NOCTURNAL DREAM AND «DREAMING»



The aboriginal have chosen themselves the term "the Dreaming" or simply «Dreaming» as the nearest equivalent to the native conceipt «alcheringa» used by the Arunta (a tribe which is located near Alice Springs in the Northern Territory or the term «jukurrpa» used by most tribes of the western and central desert, especially the Walpiri tribe.
This native concept of Dreaming (the dream with a big D) should not be confused with nocturnal dream (the dream with a small d), even if it attests by its linguistic link of a cosmology (our relationship to the universe and space-time) which gives an essential place to nocturnal dream and imagination in general. The Dream refers so, more widely, to the history in mythology and the social organisation which belongs to a perfectly oirginal culture : the one of the Australian aboriginal people.
The confusion between the term Dreaming with the dreaming experience provoked a lot of misunderstandings. Many think very often that Aboriginal are attributing a status of reality to what they see during their sleep, without making any difference with the waking state. Surely, they are not opposing the dream to reality as we do because they do not restrict it to an imaginary world but they read the nocturnal images at the research of reality signs. They interpret their dreams as a guide for daily life, to capture their ancestors¹s messages, to look and listen new rituals in the form of paintings and hymns supposed to be «forgotten» and «refound».
It is as a living memory, not only individual but also cosmologic, that the dream has its own dimension and it seems to maintain an active relation with the sensible universe. Thus, the human acts are fitting in a «philosophy» which do not state a predestination, or an eternal repetition, but the rules of different plays which make and change the individual and collective life. In this way, the Law of Dream would be the game the rules of which are not immutable but can be modified under certain limits.

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Yes I do, on several levels also...(1) tension releaser, (2) in an out of
body state, (3) in an kind of revelation solving episode (4) to relax in
doing something I like to do (5) an negative mind controlling, I think from
posible "remote viewers" I know (6) and kind of an biblical rendering (7)
from outside stimulation during the day. For years now I have been building onto this huge house I seem to own, and people come by to admire it from time to time also. Each room has its own character. Last night I was having "revelation" type dreams,this is where I'm being "flashed" the manipulations of others for the most part...I see that the name of "Carol" in our family is an rendition of the word of "KayO"..of which was my great aunt's signature in her nursing work field on her documents and in her letters to me...people have been using that to
manipulate things within the family. She was up very high in our country's politcal associations before she passed on. The war mongers
couldn't beat her "authority" so they wished her an stroke to control her. She had it driving down the street, pulled over the side of the road and died...hurting no one. I had never questioned her death before now.
Last night I was irritated and was asking for "divine guidance" and this is
what I was shown in an kind of visionary way.

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"Last night I was irritated and was asking for "divine guidance" and this is
what I was shown in an kind of visionary way."


what were you shown? her death?

I sometimes have fun in my dreams, see people that are dead but in the dream they are alive.
sometimes it is a warning
lately I have been recalling old dreams while awake,
they feel like a flashback {I relive the feelings I had in the dream.
I had lots of dreams about places, like I am looking for that one that's "a Keeper"
now that I am living here again and have changed a few things it seems like some of those places were really in this house.
I have yet to meet the people who were in them.

what I hate is waking up, thinking someone is alive and then having to face that they are not :(

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No this is an carry over from my past life as possibly an preacher, that
has a yet not been found, only reference to me having been an elder
and founder of an church. I think my father before had been raised
by the Native Americans and was an Shaman also...he is now possibly my brother this lifetime around.  It would of been my
wife back then that got me into conventional religion. I know my past lives and I was told one time that I'm an old soul, that to see into my
past lives is like watching an continual movie of "flashback lives" and
many of them I was Native American. Weird infromation though surrounding them at times. I have one lifetime before this one and the
time I was an preacher, and in that one I was killed by the Nazi's. I am
having considerable problems with that these days. Especally the poverty of those days. As your death in your current life is caused by
the in-abilty to surpass the sorrows that caused your death prior, so
in order for "soul-grow" you die...it is an escape mechanizsm to propel
your soul, by giving yourself physically.  
In answer to your question, I see people, as well as pick up information
rolling past me in an kind of "rolling roll-dex" of information. I was called
about my great aunt's death, by her sister in North Carolina, and it was
really quite "suspicious" not to mention that from the time she died in the car to her death, and reported to us,  someone had literally stripped her of her jewerly. She held the highest office of the women's Masonic
Lodge you could hold In Pasadena California. Her chapter was taking care of the President's San Calente house while he was in Washington D. C...she told me then that thngs going on where not what they seemed to be at the time.  A man has since written an book saying that
Howard Hughes was responsble for the Water-gate scandel..it had nothing to do with "politics" it had to do with trying to get to documents
that the President was taking "pay-backs" off Hughes for special treatments in moving "nuke" testings our of Nevada to Alaska...as he was buildig the huge cascino's in Vegas at the time...he didn't want the place "rattling"...though John Wayne and others still died of Cancer in the area off movie making they were doing. Everyone on the "set" back then died of some form of Cancer.  One of her peices of jewerly was her "ring" an huge Masonic piece of true gems they used in thier icon of the Masonic Lodge symbolism...it did nto belong to her, but was her's as the highest officer in the lodge. We feel there was "foul" play in her death, as well as possibly her neice, an cousin to my mother. My North Carolina relatives went back to Florida to check that out, as the husband had been an old Miami Police Chief in his earlier years. I have not heard from them since either. Apparently "evil" abounds at the hands of someone. If not Californians, perhaps Native Americans or in-law relatives...though these women, my great Aunt had lost her husband early in their marriage, and "Pat" lost her hubby earlier also.  
People don't really die but bodily, and in seeing them as people, your seeing an projected image of their looks as you knew them most the time from "spirit essence". This is well stated in the bible numerous times. It is for instance in the "angels" sent down to Sodom and Gamorah and were seen as "real people". But I must ask you this, do
you believe in Jesus?...do you believe in his death and reserection?..if
you truly say that you do, then he is "alive" now just as he was then,
because he is "immortal". If you don't take this to heart, then you are
worshiping "religion"...and not the "Holy" family...or their doctrines.  
I have always had an keen awareness of "Intution" but after my near
death expereince it stepped things up a bit to seeing people and acute
"visions" and "out of body" expereinces. I seldom speak about this though
because of "remote viewers" these days and doing their mind-control
expereiments on others, everyone seems to want to know "secrets" these days you know, and most the time, what is "seen" is the current
time path your on, not set and die "futures"...just possbile futures many times.....and there are those whom consider you an "freak", those type are constantly "testing" you until you could scream...and for the most part, it don't change anyone, they have to change themselves, and there is an "ordained" kind of life we live doing God's will also...which is un-changable...but "God's will" is far different then is mankind's his work is outward from you and or ideas. They are to help others, not control them. He wants people to be guided perhaps, but not directed. At judegment day, he wil know your true-self, and rather in times you have
repented of them if wrong..so strong was God's wanting of individual
"will" and free choice that he took the "slaves" from Egypt. How does one make judgement on someone that has no "free will choice" to do
good or bad?..let alone repent for their ways and learn from their mistakes under "control"...they don't.  It works out best just "living
daily" and sometimes having an "knowing" about things I guess you could say. I havent' been in an church in some time now, and I like in ways not being sterotyped into one religion also, for I feel they are all under
one, reguardless of what they call themselves, and how do you know an
"God" person from others, by what they do, when they don't have to, in
beign good, merciful, forgiving, and not harming others...not controlling them. It also applies to all cultures and races as well. That is hardly
the thing going on in today's world.  Why should you "pray"...even if your never in an church setting...because it "recognizes" God's existence. Therefore there's an abilty for communication.
My great aunt is the 4th generation inot nursing in our family that is
known. She worked at an specialty hospital in Altadena, California with
people with Lung problems, her sister inspired her from her death with
"TB". Both her an her brother watched over her only daughter...when
she left her father's house and moved to them in California. She appeared to me when my son was an infant and use to have raging fevers, though it was my mother's sister that told me how to cure them.
She told me then that it was necessary that we have "medical personel"
in our family...well, we do, enough in various forms to start our own
hosptial at times these days. I think she said that from the "Shaman"
father of mine in the previous life perhaps. As soon as I can narrow down his life, I might know more about that. I am not saying that his
wife could not of been an sister of the Shawnee "the prophet" right now
either...as I think he was raised by "Hanging Maw" the "peace" chief of
the Cherokee. I am told his brother "Doublehead" ate human flesh of
those he killed also. So it is no doubt that records indicate that after
Andrew Jackson arrives where I was living in my past life, that I took
off for Oregon. I had an Indian escort from records found of others in
this Wagon Train...and while other wagon trains were being attacked
and people killed, ours was not. I assume from the "Indian Escort" said
to have appeared "out of no-where"...it would take pretty strong medicine to make the Native Americans "respect" that doings. But it
also only enhances our family "visonary" expereinces also. Everyone you
are around....NOW...had to do something with your past. Everyone you
meet...NOW...is there to help your soul growth move onward.
I could write an book about my mystical expereinces. Enough said.

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RE: Do You DREAM?

if you will read a book on the subject, try Book 1 called The laws of occultism.
There you will find the rebuttal I would be trying to write.

kemokae Wrote:
Everyone you
are around....NOW...had to do something with your past. Everyone you
meet...NOW...is there to help your soul growth move onward.
I could write an book about my mystical expereinces. Enough said.


want to know how all that can work without having had past incarnations as a human?

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Don't know if I can acess Book 1, but will try a bit better. I thought I'd give you an example on this though, with an old long time friend. I think
she is an lineage grandmother. She's been an cousin to my old neighbor
growing up and was mine at one time, for 20 years we belonged to an
same "social" group of ladies..so I have watched her through the years.
It wasn't until I got into understanding and having an past life review that I understood these many thinngs though about past lives. This lady has an pattern of losing her male members, firstly was her hsuband leaving her with two kids to raise, she remarried, to divorce, then lost her oldest son in volved in an hit and run accident, and is now living with her grandson, whose blind. When I did the research work on her, as an past grandmother, before I put two and two together, she had been left widowed with two kids, she faked a miltary pension off her first husband to receive money to live on apparently. She remarried again, to lose that husband also, in short folowing her around, she's kind of "used" her loved ones to enhance her own life...in her past life she would of been an mother to my on eo fmy past grandmother's generation, who died early also. Leaving...two kids. Our line comes from
the male of that line. It si apparently her "lesson in life" to not depend
upon other people for her living, and she keeps losing them in the process of getting to the point where she depends upon them. Even
right now, her only daughter has left the area and lives far away
from her...now on her third marriage, and she was married three times
back then in the past three times. She has all the chararistics of Martha
Stewart I might add also...as if they are "light souls" on the same person. So it did not surprise me when Martha went to jail either.
I also have my own problems to over come. One of them being this kind of "Nazi" past. When I was an small child my dad use to tickle us kids,
playing with us, it would just be so stressful to me. I was just freaking
out at being held down. I use to have constant dreams of "falling" when I was an kid, mostly off tall buidlings, or being rolled out of an car going around an corner and into the gutter..most the tiem I woek up before I
died though. I've always had an weight problem...ever since I was an
little kid. I was always the rebellious one in the family also, and dad use to call me "kemosabe" after Roy Rogers and his native american friend
because I always insisted in "justice" in life. In ways dad raised us
Native American. When I went into my past life, I found out that after
having been the preacher, my bond with God was not broken, I came
back as "jewish"..I feel I was fairly young when I was rounded up and
placed in an "Nazi" prison camp. I suffer from the past feeling of hunger, which is only strengthen in "diets" going hungry...until most the time I
drop off the diet and end up eating and weighting more then when I
began. I was as an preacher my own generation back grandfather today being an legacy from him. I died back then in 1847 from heart failure of walking mostly the 3,000 mile sto get here, I stayed around long enough to get an house and the family situated and died of heart failure. I have relatives now that have "jump claimed" that lifetime now. In short they put me to death last year with this "heart problem" I have now, much
like the "Nazi's" did in the secodn lifetime of mine. The day I died in my
past life, they stood a bunch of us in an line and went down the row
and shot us in the stomach and chest and we fell into an great big ditch to die, many of us were not dead either. One of the reasons in this lifetime I can hardly stand to have people close to around me, hanging
on me. As those not dead back then were clamoring over each other for air to breathe. this life time, I just had "Laser" surgery to remove "Gall
Stones" and they went through my stomach, the belly button to do this surgery...I was in "critical" condtion passing the stones when I got into
emergency. I believe that I was given by "God" a second chance in
coming back here this life time...because I never really had an chance as the "preacher" to make much of an life for myself. And I do have
outsiders, and relatives trying to stop that abilty..esp. on my husband's side...as they make "spiritual" attachments to me. As the preacher's
life, I lost an small daughter, I have no daughters in this lifetime. I did
raise another though, as per the family in the past also. I heard last
night on the radio that some Isreali guy said that Moses on the mount to receive the 10 Commandments was most likely on some kind of narcotic drug..to commune with "God"..I sat straight up in bed and said "Bull $hit"..this is the "Now" evil generation saying that. I have never taken any drugs to receive the information nor commune with
"God" at any time. I wonder if they think "Paul" was "high as hilt" on drugs when he got called into God's service also. This is being said to
"OK" the use of drugs...which for many brings in big bucks. It will serve only to invalidated "God" and is well planned by the dark forces. If you see "God" while as high as an kite, know that your not seeing "God" but
playing "in your own mind" with your "drug" thoughts. God appears to us
in reality, not an altered state of mind. That of course separates the
real from the false. I do not need drugs for "visions", nor do I need them for "flashbacks" or "communion" with the Holy and divine. I would never
trust the information received under the infuence of drugs. I know that
will go against the grain of many of those you these days. And I know
for many of you, your pains are so deep that you seek counsel when
having problems through the pain lessing drugs available. But don't
confuse them with the real messages. What is "God"?.......
What I term as "God" has only come to me twice in my life. I am indeed
with the remote vewers and mind control expereiments going on always weary of the messages, and I find that the content is always good for
everyone with an real message from the divine, and one good way to
understand that "truth" and that which is false. God's messages are
for mankind on an personal level.
God source is pure "light energy with thought". It has no gender that I
could make out. I felt my soul in the exchange as an separate entitiy sort of that had a lot of pure "fear" in it. Fear from the awesome sort
of "Power" of this energy. It would be like holding on to an electric power line and knowing someone had turned on the "on" switch...and
it was about to permeate your body form. Time stopped. There was no time, no recollection of it at all. I had been heavily into an kind of depression about what to do in an situation with another person. I was at this time asking for "divine guidance" in it. After my inital fear was
over, I immeidately saw about six screens in front of me sort of, one
had the life of what was going on with this person, another was an
screen of what I wanted to do with this person by my decsion, two
more screens I was beig shown the path they were taking in each instance, and the next screen was "God's" guidance, and how things
would be resolved. I saw and understaod them each and all simutaneously at the same moment. It ended wit being told not to
worry..that "God" was still running the show, and it was still his universe. It ended with an clap of thunder, and it was still going on as
came out of this sitting up and didnt' go away until I turned on an light in the room. The whole message probly was less then 5 mins. It seemed much longer though. It was so over-coming to me that I have never
forgotten it. I have an "knowing" that "it" came to me, not me to it, and it came of it's own will, not mine. It wanted me to know not to "stew"
over others in the world, that they are being taken care of per "God's"
will, not mankind's in many things they do. And I saw from the screens
that what I thought would of been the answer for them, was not, that
they had things to learn about themselves. They could not do that if I
was tryig to "control" them by my decisions. I was rather to guide them into the making of their lives by guidance, not opinionated forcefulness. In some ways, the very actions that an sucessful preacher would have. What we do now is both an accumulatin of the past, and we are building upon for our future lessons in life.
I suggest the book and tape "Discover your past lives" by Allan Forster, it will help you to explore and inform you much better then I am doing perhaps. Past ife regressions can help to release you from your past, so you can "move on" more or less and is the subject of many Shamans
as well as clergy. It releases you because it gives you the understanding of why you are...what you are today.

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that is a lot for me to digest in one glance

I find myself wanting to reply to parts before I move on dare I forget my words

I want to say, it is of great interest to me to hear what you'd think of the Brotherhood of light's explanation for these things

the idea of having to relive the lessons from past "lives" is in the books
the thing I find to be more freeing is the Brotherhood of Light's concept of
what our past lives were and what our future lives will be.

I have to consume your story with my full capacity which at this time is diminished

I cleaned the house then I had the company [you know that always means more work]
I was so excited about having this guest :hotgirl: I further depleted myself by "running on adrenalin"
what my Mom would call "all keyed up"
I used to get so hyper they'd give me an ice bath!

not a punishment, I enjoyed it :babybath: after getting as they said it, "all wound up"

I'll be back to continue reading your post as soon as I repair myself :emptyhead:

p.s. I can forward the letter with the books again but you gotta get it to download before you can see it all.




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The Brotherhood of Light protected me during an injury for several
says by placing an "light bubble" over me. I then lost consciousness
for several days. When I woke up, I wasn't so close to death as I had
been. I could resume my daily duties. All I can really say is before going
out, I said to an "bright light" presecense..."I knew you'd come". Felt
the light bubble and went out.

I know at times its very hard for me to explain some of the things that
I expereince, it's so complicated to try to "put into words" with the
language we have available...not to mention at times I've got one foot
there in the remembering. One reason why I don't talk about these things most the time, I guess I do it now because of the heart problem, as I know that times coming up this information might be of help to
someone somewhere in understanding what they come across. It's very
hard for me at times to even find people knowledgable enough to understand some of the things, I was told by one very well known
person that they have just now in "science" found what I'm trying to
explain...as "Quantum Physics"....and they still don't know everything about it.

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I know what you mean.
People think it should all fit into a "logic" they can grasp.
shit happens! that is a fact! talking to the dead, etc .. it happens.
HOW it happens is up for debate.

I can't Wait for someone with a science back ground to digest book 1!!!!

it seems to me, the "string theory" they say only explains the tiny tiny stuff
and einstein's theory explains only the big stuff
supposedly the "rules" break down when trying to fit it all under one theory.

Boy, if Steven Hawkings would read the Laws of Occultism!
the "science of vibration" {that might show how it all fits together.

P.S.
www.light.org, now called "Church of Light" couldn't have been the only group knowing the teachings.
They were known by the Masons and the Golden Dawn too.

the books written by Elbert Benjamin called The Brotherhood of Light Lessons are the oral teachings of the Kabala.


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